Sig 365xl Vs Glock 19 - For a guy who likes DA/SA cars and skinny revolvers, the Sig P365 XL probably seems like an odd choice. But I can't deny that this is a great weapon. In this review I look at what I like about the P365 XL after 2000 laps and some things that could use improvement.
The Sig Sauer P365 XL is easily the most impressive new pistol I've tried in a long time. Today I want to talk about why it is quickly becoming one of my favorite concealed carry options.
Sig 365xl Vs Glock 19
This gun enters a whole new category of stealth semi-autos. It's not a single stack and it's not really double stacks either. They are somewhere in between.
P365 Xmacro Redefines Compact Capacity With 17 Round Mags
Let's go back to the 1990s - the pinnacle of the double wonder nine. At the time, a compact pistol was basically a full-sized pistol with a shortened grip and slide and a slightly shorter barrel. For a subcompact, they just shortened everything a bit more. We can see perfect examples of this in some of the most popular cars of the time; Glock 19 compact and Glock 26 subcompact. When all other gun manufacturers started releasing their polymer guns in the early 2000s, they followed the same basic pattern.
Then, a few years ago, a 9mm single-stack polymer came along and shook things up. In 2012, the Smith & Wesson shield wasn't the first, but it was the weapon that took the single nine group out of niche status to become one of the most common types of carrying weapons in the country. Since then, we've seen dozens of new 9mm stock polymer guns come out from all corners of the industry. And now we're all tired of them. Especially those of us who have to evaluate and review these things for a living.
In January 2018, Sig Sauer saved us from this endless boredom with something that was actually a bit different: the P365. It looks like a single stack of nines. It is the same size as a single stack of nines. But somehow they managed to fit ten cartridges into this little magazine clown car. The typical 9mm single-stack magazine can hold 6 to 8 rounds, but this is not a single-stack magazine. The top three or four rounds in the magazine are stacked more or less straight on top of each other, but then the magazine tapers outward and finally the rounds are staggered like a double stack.
The gun was a big hit. Won all kinds of prizes. There were some reliability issues in the beginning, but the worst seemed to be resolved after about the first year. In May last year, Sig released a version with a frame-mounted manual safety. And then last July they released this version: the Sig P365 XL.
Phenom Stealth: Edge Works
It has the same slim profile as the original P365, but with a longer barrel and a slightly longer grip for flat 12-round magazines. Sig also makes an extended 15-round magazine. It is about 3 grams heavier than the standard P365 with a payload of 26.3 grams. Most of this extra weight comes from the longer slide and barrel, which is 3.7 inches instead of 3.1. It is available with or without manual safety - this one has the safety. It has the XSeries direct trigger - which is only available as an aftermarket upgrade for the original P365, but is standard on the XL. And it also has a set of Sig X-RAY3 night sights as standard and a slide machined to accept micro-red-dot optics.
It's worth asking why I'm interested in this particular weapon, or the P365 in general. I am content to carry a snub-nosed revolver most of the time. A glorified single stack with a few extra rounds in the magazine doesn't do much for me. If I'm going to seriously consider a carry gun for personal use, it has to be very easy to shoot, very easy to carry, and it has to meet my personal safety standards. I'll come back to those first two in a minute. Let me get the security issue out of the way first. Or maybe "risk management" is a better term.
If you've been watching my videos for a while, then you know that for semi-autos I usually prefer hammer guns, whether it's double action only or double/single action. I like being able to lock the hammer with my thumb so it's physically impossible for the gun to fire while cocked. The battle control device available for Glocks is the next best option. It does the same as a hammer when you reload it. The manual safety is a distant third option, but depending on how it's designed, I'd consider it a carry gun.
I don't think safety is for everyone. I'm especially willing to recommend a manual safety for a novice shooter, or anyone who doesn't practice regularly enough. But I will pull and load a carry rifle thousands and thousands of times, both in dry training and at the shooting range. Any reservoir has the potential to turn into a catastrophic accident. All it takes is a distraction - a momentary lack of attention.
First Shots Review:the Sig Sauer P365, P365 Xl, And P365 Sas
So in addition to following all best practices for safe gun handling and gun placement, I like to have at least one extra layer of mechanical safety to reduce risk. I especially like it when that extra layer doesn't compromise the usability of the gun. Whether or not this manual safety does this is debatable.
I'm about to pour a lot of love on this gun and tell you how awesome it is. But this manual protection is not good. It's not terrible either. It's not like the wretched little tip of a security you'll find as an option on the Smith & Wesson shield. And it's not as bad as that weird safety on the LCP .22 LR I talked about a few weeks ago. It has a very positive click and is double. It can be much better. It is not wide enough and needs to be placed about half an inch further forward on the frame.
I don't know why the gun manufacturers keep screwing this up. I think it's further proof that the people making these design decisions aren't firing guns. There are plenty of examples of good manual safety, so there's really no excuse for not knowing what it should look like.
I've mentioned the safety of the M&P 22 Compact before. This is excellent security. It's not huge at all, but it's wide enough to rest your thumb on it while shooting. When you grab the gun, the knuckle of the thumb will naturally come down on the safety to release it. You can not miss it. The P365 security is barely big enough to use, and small enough to lose it on the first try over and over again. And when I rest my finger on it, this sharp edge on the back rubs against my finger when the gun is drawn.
P365 Vs P365xl Accuracy
At first this was just annoying, but in a long distance session it will really open my thumb. Right now I have a small blood blister there under the scar tissue from the first two times it happened. Frankly, I could live with this if the safety was broader and easier to disable. Sig, please take some of that sweet, sweet $50 apiece money for these magazines and give it to your R&D team so they can fix this security.
The appeal of the Sig P365 XL is not only that it is small and therefore easy to carry. Many pistols are small. This weapon is small and fireable. And it's small in a different way than other pistols. Let's look at some size comparisons to show you what I mean.
Here on the right we have the most common compact 9mm in the world, the Glock 19. On the left, the only group is Glock 9mm, the Glock 43. It's not the smallest 9mm out there, but I think it's one of the nine smallest is still fairly shootable.
I'm going to cover these two and line them up by clicking. This is the top part of the glove where the fabric of your hand would go. Of course, the 43 has a shorter slide and grip and the trigger range is also slightly shorter.
Glock 19 Gen 4 Vs. Sig Sauer M11 A1
Viewed from behind, the 43 is noticeably thinner. I measured the widest part of the grip, not including the magazine, and it is 0.81 inch for the 43 and 1.31 inch for the 19.
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